Chapter 285 Weekly Discussion - "Invictus"

I’m a big fan of “Invictus” by William Ernest Henley. In fact, the poem is my screen background and has been for many years.

Out of the night that covers me,

Black as the pit from pole to pole,

I thank whatever gods may be

For my unconquerable soul.

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In the fell clutch of circumstance

I have not winced nor cried aloud.

Under the bludgeonings of chance

My head is bloody, but unbowed.

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Beyond this place of wrath and tears

Looms but the Horror of the shade,

And yet the menace of the years

Finds and shall find me unafraid.

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It matters not how strait the gate,

How charged with punishments the scroll,

I am the master of my fate,

I am the captain of my soul.

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I posted on Patreon my thought. I very much love this chapter. One of the most optimistic chapters in the entire series. I am also looking forward to more interactions with her shadow.

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Looking forward to the coming chapters a lot. Really want to see S come into their own as a powerhouse.

Do you think the “If only there were a way to grow more quickly.” Is foreshadowing?

Im hoping her 3 Wills cause some kind of exponential growth in her magic abilities.

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She is already growing faster than expected. If it’s due to multi-casting, she should be able to optimize that method further once she figures out how it works.

Also, I wonder if she could use something similar to Lino-Wharton’s to add 2 extra pairs of eyes to study 3 books at once. It would certainly accelerate her education. Hopefully, without the death toll of that spell though.

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I love how Sebastien gets to just relax and have fun this chapter. She deserves it after all she’s been through recently

Very intrigued to find out what she’s got planned for her secret order now. She certainly seems like she’s going to make it officially the Raven Queen’s, but it’ll be interesting to see what form it takes given the seeds she’s sowing

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Some way to grow more quickly sounds like a clever way to kill yourself.

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Well…a garden of thought in the spirit world is a means of making a concept that can then be used to affect phenomena in the mundane world. As seen with Claudio. And that is the effective ability to generate aspects of power the worl will recognize, and with multiple wills refinement of specific spells towards free casting is quite possible. A symbiotic potential there with Legion

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I appreciate the negotiations with Nat. Both in the free respect Siobahn has with her and that she payed her by making her a floating ninja creature in a suggested pillow fight. Very fun to imagine the connections siobahn has being manifested in her various kid companions games. Also mildly good training if they get in danger. Its nice that she finally feels a bit safer, inna way that calibrates her towards confronting greater risk. Very appropriate for a desire for greater control

I mildly wonder how much further Siobahn could modify her sleep spell. And if she couldnt use legions constructs on her ravens to help her connection with them and to aid them in gaining capabilities.

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Hah! I knew Oliver told Damien where she was. Nice bit of reputation repair, there, while also making sure she wasn’t left alone.

That was such a genuinely lovely chapter. Seeing her act her age after the horrors she’s been through is lovely. Just letting her have a chance to put down her burdens and breathe for an evening is so refreshing.

Brinn knowing exactly how to get Sebastien to take a break is great (and what a sweetheart he is, doing the dishes afterwards - he’s really conscious that they were intruding on the servants’ dinner) and Waverly was being a little demon. I love her for teasing the hell out of Sebastien like that.

I want to point out that her Will is already growing ridiculously fast and that it grows even faster the more power she has. Not to mention that she now has three facets to her Will.

She shattered her sapphire that was rated at, what? 750ish thaums? Yes, it was in battle so she didn’t necessarily hit that yet. Her last official test put her at 618. She has been casting nearly non stop since she went on her school break, she’s been casting different magic, difficult magic, and she’s been through a battle - and almost got away from! - one of the best and most experienced battlemages of their time. She repaired the damage to her own mind of having her memory wiped! She’s gained a third Will! She free cast a spell at the age of twenty!!! And, on top of all that, she has bound a lucid aberrant to do her bidding.

Anyone who listens to this blinkered idiot when it comes to her “meagre personal power” needs to remember that this girl is seriously delusion at times. Thaumic capacity is not the be all and end all when it comes to battle. It helps, for sure. But if she had a rematch with Lacer now? She discovered some things during that duel that would help her enormously. Reinforcing her knife to get past his defences, slipping out of this world to reappear in another place - he can’t defend against these, even though he’s already seen them. How do you ward against the void?

Anyway. I look forward to seeing what the results of her next measurement is. All the things she’s been doing are the things you need to grow and to grow fast. I would not be surprised even if she reached the 800s, to be perfectly honest with you.

Also, I just want to add the fact that she can make up her own potions and advanced spells is a hell of a thing.

PS - please stop the Red Guard looking for Siobhan in Europe. The rain is getting intolerable.

Anyway, errata:

I only noticed the one this week, if I see anything on reread I’ll add it in.

“Want to become the Raven Queen.” - I want.

you could ave a truly epic pillow-fight party → have

Waverly became fascinated in the whistling air plant → fascinated by/fascinated with they just sound better than fascinated in here

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One thing I wonder is if she can cast “against” herself for faster capacity growth without needing to do anything flashy of do anything

When she was using an under-sized Conduit Lacer noted that she wouldn’t expand her capacity that way, and that implies that to get stronger one needs to operate near their limits… But, unless one gets into the habit of inefficient casting it also seems like the power used also has to actively do something to hit those thaums, so it seems like something that would be hard to do discretely while one was in a class, etc.

But we also have seen that directly opposing the will of another thaumaturge increases the capacity requirements significantly, and this seems to be backed up by Lacer’s in-class casting exercises as a training method.

So I have to wonder if she can, say, use her time in class with one branch of her will converting the mass of an acorn into leftwards kinetic energy, one branch conceding the mass into rightwards kinetic energy, and one branch paying attention to whatever else her body is doing.

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She’s previously stated that her Will’s facets can’t work against each other, though perhaps that’s something she could overcome if she were able to view them more separately rather than as three parts of the same person

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She’s dismissive of dueling, but when her classmate comes back with real growth, she’s going to reconsider.

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I’m just not convinced duelling is the right avenue for her.

She’s too restricted - well, possibly that’s an argument for it - she has to get better at the things she’s not practiced as much.

But she’s been getting into fights for her life all the time where she’s outclassed, outnumbered, outgunned - and yet, she wins.

I feel like duels are too watered down, too orchestrated. What did she gain from her duel? I’m not saying nothing, I’m just saying that if you contrast that with the research she’s been doing (or her fight with Lacer) it just feels like more of a distraction than a useful training method. For her, naturally, obviously I think Rhett will benefit.

I don’t know. Maybe I’m too sneery. It’s entirely possible that Lacer will force her to take part since he thinks it’s of benefit to her. But that’s only because he doesn’t actually know the true extent of what she’s hiding.

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Mm I think one of Siobahns key advances is she has high potential assymetry in the kinds of spells she could make or modify. Her three facets aid the depth of defining exactly what she is doing and can help her do the same action repeatedly making the spell easier with iteration. And Legion gives her a logistical base for aspects that can be combined or derived for her spells in a way that can affect her but also vitally help facilitate spells like the one she did on Bear in different ways. It gives her some nice comparatives to Myrddin in that creation despite her level of thaums may be easier as she has both precision and the core factors needed for the world to notice she is doing something.

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While I agree with most you’ve said. At the end it comes down to power. The only reason she could escape Lacer so often was because he didn’t want to harm her. If he would have flooded everything with 10000 thaums worth of fire she would have been cooked. Literally. One wrong step on her side and he’ll overpower her. I assume that she would need at least a few thousand thaums in her quiver to be reasonably save.

For her current progress she has last been measured ~70 days ago. Which could give her 140 thaums at 1th/5h and 10h/day casting (dunno what her average is and the permanent shadow spell would not give her that much since it is not new and low power).

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Yes but she knew the useable limit was actually lower since it wasn’t celerium.

From chapter 189:

Siobhan’s black sapphire Conduit pressed against the back of her ribs once more now that she was healed. It had a capacity of around seven hundred fifty thaums, but to be safe she would need to keep any spells channeled through it at six hundred fifty thaums or less. When she had gotten it, that seemed such a large number, and so far off. Now…she was almost there already. And if she needed to go up against a thaumaturge in battle, fighting for control of a spell array or to oppose the output of some spell they cast, she would need to keep the capacity lower or risk a sudden shattering.

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Remember she had about 3 days casting 24h a day - when she was repairing the damage to her mind. The permanent shadow might well be lower but she’s also running that 24h a day more or less and she’s been getting bored and doing things with it (like crochet). I don’t think she’s been respecting the 10 hour a day limit, to be honest. She doesn’t sleep and all she does is study, cast and eat. She was doing 10 hours a day when she had lectures to go to and homework to do.

Power is important, of course it is. But she sliced through Lacer’s control of his spell. I didn’t add that to the list because I’m not sure she quite realised the importance of what she did, but if she can do that, the more power someone puts behind the spell the more dangerous it becomes because of the amount of backlash they have to deal with.

If Lacer tried flooding the area with fire he can’t really do much else. He’d need some form of protection to stop himself suffocating or burning and he wouldn’t be able to track her down.

Meanwhile she just needs to deflect the heat and get out. That’s obviously easier said than done, but she has a much smaller area to focus on and can do other things at the same time - he would be exhausting his strength. Of course, now that she has Legion she could always just escape that way without necessarily letting Lacer know she’s not there anymore, which leads to him having to continue to cast or attempt to divine her location.

I’m not saying that the fact that he was trying to keep her alive was a factor in their duel, or that power isn’t a factor.

I’m just saying that Siobhan, with less than a thousand thaums, is already a difficult and unpredictable opponent who’s taken her first fledgling steps as a free caster.

Siobhan with two thousand or more thaums under her belt and more experience free casting?

She’ll be terrifying.

She’s much more deadly at lower thaumic capacity because of her focus, clarity and intent of her Will. She’s directly faced off against students with higher capacity than her in a 1:1 competition - and in most cases, triumphed. Nunchkin was her only real defeat.

She’s also deadly because she’s capable of splitting her will - allowing multi pronged attack and defence at the same time.

On top of that, she has abilities that are literally out of myth - teleportation, for all intents and purposes. A void shield in progress and capable of being turned to offence. An aberrant that can sense spells literally before they’re cast and help formulate a defence. She’s also absurdly difficult to locate.

She terrified a pair of senior red guard agents with a potion, her shadow and a song. In a real battle that kind of ingenuity is priceless.

Edit: I just read that you said to be safe - which, yes, fair. Stronger shields, stronger spells - these will definitely help you win a fight. But as we’ve seen from Siobhan herself, you’re never really safe in a battle, even if you out power your opponent.

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Sebastien has good friends. These chapters where she can enjoy good food, good conversation, and silly antics with people who care about her are some of my favorites.

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Grammar thing I noticed is you could ave a truly epic pillow fight instead of have a truly epic pillow fight.

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Does any one have theories about what she wants Nat’s connections for I’m thinking maybe Mils birthday.