While we still know nothing, share your Myrddin theories

Mine is: Myrddin is the Raven Queen of his time.

The next few chapters will probably reveal new information about Myrddin that will force us to take off our current tinfoil hats and craft new ones. So, before that happens, let’s commemorate them here.

  • Theory 1a: Myrddin was a semi-fictional figure. One or more people became Myrddin by using the same or similar transformation necklaces. At least one of the people who identified themselves as Myrddin were not quite human. Most of the stories have a basis of truth, but a significant portion were distorted intentionally by the Myrddin+collaborators faction (the help from collaborators is essential to the justification of the legendary feats and status in this theory).

  • Theory 1b: Near the height of his power, Myrddin made a terrible mistake. Throughout the years, his descendants (literally or in the apprenticeship sense) would honor a commitment to conceal his work. Siobhan’s adopted grandfather had the responsibility of protecting the hermitage. His unexpected death let the protection magic on Myrddin’s hermitage fade. [Bonus: there might be more locations or artifacts to find]

  • Theory 1c: The criteria for selecting the protectors of Myrddin’s secrets is correlated with the ability to split one’s will. Assuming sorcerers who make use of Myrddin’s magic also live much longer, the grandfather could have been looking for a successor when he met S’s mother and saw the potential in her bloodline. He might have hoped that one of her children or grandchildren would meet the requirements to be his successor.

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All of mine are absolutely wild and ridiculous.

I’ll dig in deeper when I have more time next week, but basically, I think Myrddin was real and probably - probably? - was one person. My head canon is that he turned into an Aberrant raising his lover/partner from the dead, or somehow saved their consciousness, and the Sebastien body was originally designed to contain them or resurrect them from the spirit world somehow. Except, getting turned into a sentient but somewhat evil monster sidelined him, and he decided to travel the world and become the Blood Emperor, instead, and…

My other head canon is that S, and the People in general - or some of them - are related to Myrddin through a one-time Brillig outcross to humans, which might neatly explain the split will casting based on what we already know or suspect.

My ideas are all silly and far-fetched, and there’s no solid proof for them, but I love them. Who knows? Maybe part of one of them is right.

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My theory is that Myrddin is multiple people using the same alias. I was watching a video discussing ancient alchemy and they mentioned how many documents penned were said to have come from someone else that was famous, only it wasn’t possible and didn’t make any sense for that famous person to have written I t. It seems they may have tried to give credence to their works by saying it was from someone famous. It could be that someone came up with a cool story and added Myrddin to it to make it sound believable. Or that someone did something incredible, only have had their name forgotten and supplanted with Myrddin.

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I feel like Myrddin was an Edison-like character (esp. after reading those first pages in his book). Real, but had a cabal. That cabal may, or may not, have become related to the People.

I have many other theories, but I’ll add them here later.

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My theory.

Myrddin was real. One person. His shadow was inhabited by the same Aberrant that inhabits Siobhan’s now. He worked a deal with said shadow. Is the shadow somehow tied to Myrddin’s horse? Or is the horse a second will? Said shadow was somehow captured by The People and brought under some control. That’s why Grandfather had it, and Siobhan inherited it from him. How closely is this linked to the esoteric shadow spell that Siobhan learned as a girl?

Said shadow is somehow why Siobhan can dual cast. Myrddin’s journals were created by Myrddin as part of the deal with the shadow, for the sake of a future host of the shadow’s. They are meant to both empower that future host, and lead that host into a similar deal with the shadow. Siobhan might even find herself having engaged with binding magic to tie her to that deal before she even realizes what it is.

Right now Siobhan has fairly weak power, but is growing fast. In the journals she’ll encounter secrets to growing faster still. I think she’s on her way to being Myrddin’s heir. And, just like the shadow living apart story did, Siobhan will experience analogs of various others of the “stories” about Myrddin.

Something I’ve wondered all along…is Sebastian actually Myrddin’s form?

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I agree with most of this; grandfather, however, may not have been one of the people. There are some clues to suggest that he wasn’t.

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I’ve wondered this, too.

That, or Sebastien body is something Myrddin created or resurrected for someone else - he did supposedly resurrect his lover.

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That makes me imagine a much more sinister interpretation of, “resurrect”… We know it’s possible to seal and modify memories… If you could transfer someone’s memories over, seal and break all links to the memories of the original owner of a body, and then give the person a new physical form… Well, it would be possible to consider that to be a type of resurrection… We don’t know for sure that Myrddin wasn’t a monster.

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You guys are brilliant!

I have a question: Do we have any timeline info for Myrddin’s life in relation to the the death of the blood emperor?

If we assume that the alternative form is always the same, then the Argent (the powerful Siverling sorcerer at the end of the empire) can be another “Sebastian”. Perhaps, other historical sorcerers have used the transformation too.

It is totally possible that Myrddin created the form to reflect his own body, but what if the amulet was an older relic?

What if the use of the amulet in combination with other requirements (maybe talent + bloodline + exposure to abherrant event) allows/improves the ability to split one’s will. The amulet might have helped both the Argent and Myrddin (and others?) become so powerful.

The sinister resurrection idea can still work with this. Let’s say the amulet allows people to split their will as one of the effects of weakening the correspondence between the “identity” and the physical body of the person wearing it. In the magic system, we know that definitions and held beliefs are critical. If wearing the amulet makes you think of yourself as you regardless of your body, then your body will gradually becomes less and less defined as yours. We already saw that the thing sealed in Siobhan made a move to control her shadow which she had so often used to mimic a familiar and which is believed to be a separate entity from the Raven Queen by many people. Is there a more horrific thing(s) waiting for her to lose more of her conceptual bounds to a physical form?

My new theory: the amulet was created to open up a whole new level of flexibility in thought and dramatically improve spellcasting. It has changed hands many times. With extended use, it weakens the concept definition that is protecting its owner’s body from being taken over by something horrific.

Bonus theory (1): Myrddin’s regret has a lot to do with the amulet. Perhaps he created it for someone else who ended up being taken over and causing a tragedy. Or perhaps he used it himself to become more powerful, and ended up losing control of his shadow/body or somehow allow something monstrous to materialize with his original form.

Bonus theory (2): Abherrants are created when people with access to “magic” get into a state of refusing reality/wanting to stop being and instinctively reach out to magic to enforce their will. At that time, their will resonates with a proto-magic-entity that takes over the association with their physical body instead. Or alternatively, the application of the will results in a “re-definition” of the person that changes what they can perceive and what assumptions and logical patterns guide/limit their thinking. The latter option would explain why the abherrant are much more powerful yet restricted and weirdly similar to some aspects of the person before the break event.

Bonus theory (3): Someone invented modifying the magical definition of oneself to gain power. The use and popularization of this idea solidified the magical possibility with transmogrification. People who became abherrant unintentionally used this spell in their heightened emotional states. There were no abherrants before the invention.

Bonus theory (4): The blood empire was working on “human optimization” and the amulet was created by the Argent after his own image while working on that research. Myrddin and his collaborators got the amulet and some research notes from the destroyed empire[0]. They continued the project and inadvertently made abherrants possible.

[0] I’m assuming Myrddin lived after the empire ended. Reverse the order otherwise.

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I have a feeling you’re correct, and Myrddin was a monster in both the literal and figurative sense.

Isn’t it fascinating that he was so famous, so well known, that people obsess over him and remember his name…and people seem to have the same fascination (obsession) with S in both forms? And that the only thing this monster in her head wants from her is for her to remember it?

We don’t know for sure that Myrddin wasn’t a monster.

What I want to know is why the area around Myrddin’s journal was so dangerous and full of monsters. Who is responsible? Myrddin? The Blood Emperor? Some other power that wanted Myrddin’s secrets to be impossible to find? If so, why?

I have questions, but absolutely no clues to what an answer might look like. I figure that it will take a long time before these questions are answered. If ever. And so I’m resolved to enjoy the journey.

Supposedly the Brillig wars. The University line is that they wanted to destroy the land for human habitation.

Myrddin lived about 1,000 years ago. The Blood Emperor? I’m not sure at all. I would imagine that was more recent, within 100-300 years? Probably much more recent than that, considering her Grandfather’s supposed Blood Empire ties. Maybe someone with an excellent memory could chime in.

I LOVE your theories, by the way! Maybe we don’t have to belive the shadow familiar, maybe it has nothing to do with her past and her nightmares, and everything to do with her amulet. S using her will on the spell array in the book’s cover could have been the agreement to a binding spell. We still have absolutely no idea how the amulet is powered, but none of my theories about that are good.

On a recent re-read, I caught that her grandfather stole her dreams of riding a sky kraken into the sky. That, combined with his insistence on giving her nightmares by telling horrific stories at bedtime, and her insistence that he loved her and just wanted to take care of her… I do wonder how that fits in with the shadow familiar and the amulet…

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Thanks! I need to re-read soon. Coming up with theories is so much fun for PGTS :smiley:

If Myrddin lived during the Brillig wars, that could be the missing link!!!

Updated theory: Myrddin and his collaborators lived during the Brillig wars and their goal was to create counter measures for the unique will-splitting ability of the Brillig. The amulet was one of the outputs of the defense project. Myrddin regrets the genocide of the Brillig and the creation of abherrants as described in my previous theory.

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Oh, would it be terrifying if the shadow is Siobhan’s original memories, but Siobhan’s current memories was intended as a preface for this type of resurrection?

If you could transfer someone’s memories over, seal and break all links to the memories of the original owner of a body, and then give the person a new physical form…

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This idea makes the grandfather such a monster. 10/10 idea.

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I think the chronology we’ve received is that the Brillig wars were several thousand years before present, where Myrddin was roughly 1,000 years before.

He seems to have chosen the black wastes for his hermitage because nobody else could bother him there safely, even while he was still alive, while he presumably had some effective means to ward against their influence.

I have a whole separate thread on it somewhere, but my theory is that out of desperation/revenge the Brillig contaminated the Wastes with energy from the plane of darkness, which has an inherent property of driving people who observe it mad in a somewhat Lovecraftian fashion.

Goldie (the name I just came up for for Siobhan’s passenger) is within this theory, a version of Siobhan herself that has been corrupted by that exposure (memories of a hungry sky, glimpsed through a mirror that does not reflect).

Anyway, I’m guessing that the whole split will thing wasn’t an inherent property of the Brillig, but something they habitually did to themselves for their sanity to survive exposure to the energies of the plane of darkness, which they meddled with. This is why humanity considered them to be an existential threat.

Myrddin then presumably either discovered or duplicated this process. His enormous power and long life were due to constantly split-will casting the spell for a magical construct, which he could gradually change over time to add novelty and difficulty, thus improving his gains with it. We call that construct Carnigore.

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That is such an awesome theory.

I’m sure that I will love whatever Azelea does. But right now I’m hoping that she does exactly that.

It also explains perfectly Azelea’s nightmares. And how her shadow could so easily drive people crazy - it just opens them slightly.